tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20990868.post1731847568044578413..comments2024-01-29T10:50:15.619-08:00Comments on Modern Americans: Notley on O'Hara = Degentesh?rodney khttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10515711262628729312noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20990868.post-13403182667875912772007-01-03T21:01:00.000-08:002007-01-03T21:01:00.000-08:00Thanks to you both!
Mike: there's an unwritten h...Thanks to you both! <br /><br />Mike: there's an unwritten history of the New York School that has a big 'MM' in gold relief on the imaginary cover.<br /><br />Stan: I know what you mean about having to decide how to address the intelligence moving through the poems. Myself, I've used the MMPI and its history as a kind of interpretive anchor, but the ship's always pitching against the stay in a dozen different directions. Limes and rum seem to help.rodney khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10515711262628729312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20990868.post-23334704153277697682007-01-02T21:04:00.000-08:002007-01-02T21:04:00.000-08:00Great comments Rodney. I feel like you're fast be...Great comments Rodney. I feel like you're fast becoming the very best reader of Katie's very wonderful book.<br /><br />Thanks for the Notley quote. I never knew O'hara had talked about collecting those strange late poems. I've always loved how mean-spirited and impersonal they are, and how they lack or undercut the redemptive gestures of other O'Hara poems. They seem vapid and uncompromising at the same time, which is kinda great.<br /><br />I've been meaning to do a close-reading type essay on one of those Anger Scale poems, as an experiment, though it's kind of hard to establish what I'm reading--not an authorial persona exactly? So what is it? An organizing irony? A political perspective? I feel like I have to decide how to address the type of intelligence that's in the poem, what to call the poet's agency in this case.<br /><br />Happy New Year!Stanley Bishop Burhanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04844082750285483221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20990868.post-11056699880188113412007-01-02T07:36:00.000-08:002007-01-02T07:36:00.000-08:00Great connection Rodney. I sort of make the argum...Great connection Rodney. I sort of make the argument in Emancipating Pragmatism that "The End of the Far West" ("I'm going to plant some corpses" etc) reflects the close relationship between O'Hara and Baraka in the early 60s moment when Baraka is staging "The Toilet" (drafts of which O'Hara had commented on) with set designs by Larry Rivers etc. One might make a strong case, I think, that whatever we may love about it, the 2nd Gen NY School (with its heavy dose of Koch's influence) oversees the de-politicization of O'Hara.Montanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13799996487649262045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20990868.post-73905397468619698402006-12-27T12:16:00.000-08:002006-12-27T12:16:00.000-08:00hey rodney,
could you send me your mailing addres...hey rodney,<br /><br />could you send me your mailing address?<br /><br />my email is merkoneus@yahoo.comJohn Sakkishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08621102858745971700noreply@blogger.com